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	<title>Comments on: Bless Me O Zaftique, For I Have Sinned&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Angie</title>
		<link>http://biglibertyblog.com/2009/11/09/bless-me-o-zaftique-for-i-have-sinned/#comment-1154</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heh. Maybe it&#039;s scarlet to hide your sins- the sin of spilling red wine all over yourself!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. Maybe it&#8217;s scarlet to hide your sins- the sin of spilling red wine all over yourself!</p>
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		<title>By: Joy-Mari Cloete</title>
		<link>http://biglibertyblog.com/2009/11/09/bless-me-o-zaftique-for-i-have-sinned/#comment-1153</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joy-Mari Cloete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joy-Mari Cloete</title>
		<link>http://biglibertyblog.com/2009/11/09/bless-me-o-zaftique-for-i-have-sinned/#comment-1152</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joy-Mari Cloete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Abstinence only groups lobby the government to withdraw funds if the recipients do not provide abstinence only education. You can&#039;t make someone follow Jesus but you can sure tell them they&#039;re going to hell if they don&#039;t comply with the holy book. 

A bit of googling got me this from HuffPo: 

Here in the U.S. those seeking a religious society want the government:

1. in the examining room with doctor and patient to tell a woman what to do with her body, and put both doctor and patient in jail if fail to conform to religious teachings;
2. in our bedrooms to enforce anti-sodomy laws;
3. in our classrooms to teach religious doctrine about evolution;
4. in our universities to prevent research on stem cells (now battling at the state level); and
5. to display religious doctrine in public places and courtrooms

We&#039;re in a Judaeo–Christian world because our culture is soaking in it. Read a book, watch a movie, go to a gallery, listen to music and many cultural references are from this tradition. Many people in your country belong to the Judaeo–Christian tradition and they&#039;ll be astonished to hear that you claim their country is not&lt;/a&gt; Christian. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abstinence only groups lobby the government to withdraw funds if the recipients do not provide abstinence only education. You can&#8217;t make someone follow Jesus but you can sure tell them they&#8217;re going to hell if they don&#8217;t comply with the holy book. </p>
<p>A bit of googling got me this from HuffPo: </p>
<p>Here in the U.S. those seeking a religious society want the government:</p>
<p>1. in the examining room with doctor and patient to tell a woman what to do with her body, and put both doctor and patient in jail if fail to conform to religious teachings;<br />
2. in our bedrooms to enforce anti-sodomy laws;<br />
3. in our classrooms to teach religious doctrine about evolution;<br />
4. in our universities to prevent research on stem cells (now battling at the state level); and<br />
5. to display religious doctrine in public places and courtrooms</p>
<p>We&#8217;re in a Judaeo–Christian world because our culture is soaking in it. Read a book, watch a movie, go to a gallery, listen to music and many cultural references are from this tradition. Many people in your country belong to the Judaeo–Christian tradition and they&#8217;ll be astonished to hear that you claim their country is not Christian.</p>
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		<title>By: pastormack</title>
		<link>http://biglibertyblog.com/2009/11/09/bless-me-o-zaftique-for-i-have-sinned/#comment-1151</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pastormack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joy-Mari, I am sorry for not capitalizing that letter.

What constitutes a &quot;Jude0-Christian&quot; way of life?  Jews and Christians are two distinct religious communities (with many variances within each; we do not share a single way of living).  

You say much of my country is still &quot;steeped in this way of life.&quot;  And yet when I look around, I see poverty, I see people who would rather watch Flavor Flav than read a Gospel, I see MTV defining culture much more than any faith is.  No prayer at football games and the like.  In many towns, no Christmas displays.  Some Churches are getting in legal trouble for ringing their bells.  If there is a Christian heritage, I do not see it on the public square.

To parts of the rest of the world (secularized Europe in particular), America may look frighteningly religious.  But we are most certainly in a post-Christian state.  How exactly are these unnamed &quot;religious groups&quot; &quot;pushing&quot; their views on everyone else?  Last I checked, you cannot make someone follow Jesus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joy-Mari, I am sorry for not capitalizing that letter.</p>
<p>What constitutes a &#8220;Jude0-Christian&#8221; way of life?  Jews and Christians are two distinct religious communities (with many variances within each; we do not share a single way of living).  </p>
<p>You say much of my country is still &#8220;steeped in this way of life.&#8221;  And yet when I look around, I see poverty, I see people who would rather watch Flavor Flav than read a Gospel, I see MTV defining culture much more than any faith is.  No prayer at football games and the like.  In many towns, no Christmas displays.  Some Churches are getting in legal trouble for ringing their bells.  If there is a Christian heritage, I do not see it on the public square.</p>
<p>To parts of the rest of the world (secularized Europe in particular), America may look frighteningly religious.  But we are most certainly in a post-Christian state.  How exactly are these unnamed &#8220;religious groups&#8221; &#8220;pushing&#8221; their views on everyone else?  Last I checked, you cannot make someone follow Jesus.</p>
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		<title>By: Joy-Mari Cloete</title>
		<link>http://biglibertyblog.com/2009/11/09/bless-me-o-zaftique-for-i-have-sinned/#comment-1150</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joy-Mari Cloete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@pastormack: My name is Joy-Mari. 

You&#039;re not in a post-Christian country because much of your society is still steeped in the Judaeo–Christian way of life. And many religious groups use their political clout to push their views on everyone else, even those countries that receive funding from America.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pastormack: My name is Joy-Mari. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re not in a post-Christian country because much of your society is still steeped in the Judaeo–Christian way of life. And many religious groups use their political clout to push their views on everyone else, even those countries that receive funding from America.</p>
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		<title>By: pastormack</title>
		<link>http://biglibertyblog.com/2009/11/09/bless-me-o-zaftique-for-i-have-sinned/#comment-1149</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pastormack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@magickal: who or what was I judging?

@joy-Mari, why aren&#039;t we in a post-Christian setting in contemporary America?  and yes, I agreed that using sin is off-putting, but not as much as the way we use &#039;God&#039; without thinking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@magickal: who or what was I judging?</p>
<p>@joy-Mari, why aren&#8217;t we in a post-Christian setting in contemporary America?  and yes, I agreed that using sin is off-putting, but not as much as the way we use &#8216;God&#8217; without thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Joy-Mari Cloete</title>
		<link>http://biglibertyblog.com/2009/11/09/bless-me-o-zaftique-for-i-have-sinned/#comment-1148</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joy-Mari Cloete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@pastormack: America isn&#039;t a &#039;post&#039;Christian&#039; country and using the word &#039;sin&#039; is kinda offputting, no?

@Amanda: I like yer reasoning ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pastormack: America isn&#8217;t a &#8216;post&#8217;Christian&#8217; country and using the word &#8216;sin&#8217; is kinda offputting, no?</p>
<p>@Amanda: I like yer reasoning <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: magickalrealism</title>
		<link>http://biglibertyblog.com/2009/11/09/bless-me-o-zaftique-for-i-have-sinned/#comment-1146</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[magickalrealism]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s amazing how much judgment gets disguised as humor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing how much judgment gets disguised as humor.</p>
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		<title>By: pastormack</title>
		<link>http://biglibertyblog.com/2009/11/09/bless-me-o-zaftique-for-i-have-sinned/#comment-1145</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pastormack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Forgive me for being a dumb male, but isn&#039;t that description simply stating in plain language what a whole class of women&#039;s clothing is designed to do?  Lately a style of clothing has become popular that is almost just like this (sans the Renaissance-esque appeal): tight bust, but loose and flowing around the stomach and hips.  To me, it all looks like maternity wear.  But it&#039;s obvious this this stuff is designed to accentuate positives and hide perceived negatives (not unlike men&#039;s suits).

Yes, the use of &#039;sins&#039; is stupid, but theological language is misappropriated all across the cultural board.  Welcome to a post-Christian America.  People who are, for all intents and purposes, atheists will still routinely exclaim, &quot;oh my God!&quot; or &quot;God d***!&quot;  No surprise that &#039;sins&#039; would be misappropriated, particularly in this case.  White guys, fat people, and racists are the last groups it is socially acceptable to loathe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive me for being a dumb male, but isn&#8217;t that description simply stating in plain language what a whole class of women&#8217;s clothing is designed to do?  Lately a style of clothing has become popular that is almost just like this (sans the Renaissance-esque appeal): tight bust, but loose and flowing around the stomach and hips.  To me, it all looks like maternity wear.  But it&#8217;s obvious this this stuff is designed to accentuate positives and hide perceived negatives (not unlike men&#8217;s suits).</p>
<p>Yes, the use of &#8216;sins&#8217; is stupid, but theological language is misappropriated all across the cultural board.  Welcome to a post-Christian America.  People who are, for all intents and purposes, atheists will still routinely exclaim, &#8220;oh my God!&#8221; or &#8220;God d***!&#8221;  No surprise that &#8216;sins&#8217; would be misappropriated, particularly in this case.  White guys, fat people, and racists are the last groups it is socially acceptable to loathe.</p>
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		<title>By: jeanc38</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess referring to the body as having sins is marginally better then &quot;flawed&quot; :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess referring to the body as having sins is marginally better then &#8220;flawed&#8221; <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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