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	<title>Comments on: Weathering the storm or, growing pains</title>
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		<title>By: BigLiberty</title>
		<link>http://biglibertyblog.com/2008/05/09/weathering-the-storm-or-growing-pains/#comment-419</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 16:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[^Sorry for the misconception Rachel, I know some people who are Buddhist and Jewish culturally, I&#039;ll make sure to note that. :) And you&#039;re right, redefining boundaries is a sign of growth -- growth being a good thing, amidst the conflict! :)

vesta, I agree with your last statement about diversity. I think many misunderstand what it means to  &lt;i&gt;accept&lt;/i&gt; diversity within a movement -- they feel like it means they have to agree with everything everyone else in the movement is saying, and that to say, allow someone who is anti-fat-hate yet is currently dieting into the movement means they have to believe in diets or dieters. Not so. And one could link arms with a dieter against fat hate, and write on her blog how she believes diets are tools of oppression, *without cognitive dissonance*. 

The minute that same dieter starts to imply since she diets others should diet, of course, is the minute you can choose to unlink that arm. But it is entirely possible there are dieters out there who are against fat hate and would make valuable additions to the movement. And yes, it makes me uneasy, since I don&#039;t personally want to rubberstamp any cosmetic diet, ever. But I realize I&#039;m *not* doing that by teaming up with someone who is against fat hate yet happens to be a dieter, and I get over it, yanno? ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^Sorry for the misconception Rachel, I know some people who are Buddhist and Jewish culturally, I&#8217;ll make sure to note that. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  And you&#8217;re right, redefining boundaries is a sign of growth &#8212; growth being a good thing, amidst the conflict! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>vesta, I agree with your last statement about diversity. I think many misunderstand what it means to  <i>accept</i> diversity within a movement &#8212; they feel like it means they have to agree with everything everyone else in the movement is saying, and that to say, allow someone who is anti-fat-hate yet is currently dieting into the movement means they have to believe in diets or dieters. Not so. And one could link arms with a dieter against fat hate, and write on her blog how she believes diets are tools of oppression, *without cognitive dissonance*. </p>
<p>The minute that same dieter starts to imply since she diets others should diet, of course, is the minute you can choose to unlink that arm. But it is entirely possible there are dieters out there who are against fat hate and would make valuable additions to the movement. And yes, it makes me uneasy, since I don&#8217;t personally want to rubberstamp any cosmetic diet, ever. But I realize I&#8217;m *not* doing that by teaming up with someone who is against fat hate yet happens to be a dieter, and I get over it, yanno? <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://biglibertyblog.com/2008/05/09/weathering-the-storm-or-growing-pains/#comment-418</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 16:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, I&#039;m a Buddhist atheist :)

I think these kinds of growing pains are just that: &lt;i&gt;growing&lt;/i&gt; pains.  It indicates the movement is becoming larger, more expansive.  I think this is a problem common to many movements as it constantly seeks to redefine the boundaries drawn by its members.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I&#8217;m a Buddhist atheist <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think these kinds of growing pains are just that: <i>growing</i> pains.  It indicates the movement is becoming larger, more expansive.  I think this is a problem common to many movements as it constantly seeks to redefine the boundaries drawn by its members.</p>
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		<title>By: vesta44</title>
		<link>http://biglibertyblog.com/2008/05/09/weathering-the-storm-or-growing-pains/#comment-417</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 16:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the reason I love FA/SA/FL so much - there are so many different voices/views/ideas. I may not agree with all of them, but by reading/listening to all of them, my view of this movement and what it means to the people in it is broadened. I&#039;m given a different perspective with which to look at what&#039;s happening to people who aren&#039;t the same as me and have experiences that are so very different than mine. Hell, those experiences that are different from mine give me a different perspective on what I&#039;ve dealt with in my life, and sometimes give me ways to cope that I hadn&#039;t even thought of, let alone considered. If we want society to accept a diversity of body shapes/sizes, then shouldn&#039;t we be willing to accept that same kind of diversity in thoughts/ideas/ways of working to advance this movement?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the reason I love FA/SA/FL so much &#8211; there are so many different voices/views/ideas. I may not agree with all of them, but by reading/listening to all of them, my view of this movement and what it means to the people in it is broadened. I&#8217;m given a different perspective with which to look at what&#8217;s happening to people who aren&#8217;t the same as me and have experiences that are so very different than mine. Hell, those experiences that are different from mine give me a different perspective on what I&#8217;ve dealt with in my life, and sometimes give me ways to cope that I hadn&#8217;t even thought of, let alone considered. If we want society to accept a diversity of body shapes/sizes, then shouldn&#8217;t we be willing to accept that same kind of diversity in thoughts/ideas/ways of working to advance this movement?</p>
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